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    <title>Plato's Cave - Episodes Tagged with “Vice”</title>
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    <description>I'm Jordan Myers and I'm a PhD student studying philosophy at USC. Plato's Cave is my attempt to exit... well, the cave. It's a philosophy podcast meant to help me guide my ascent to the real world, the truth, the place where life is worth living; and apparently that means giving up a regular job with good pay to pursue the security of the academic job market - the philosophy job market nonetheless! Join me on my journey as I cover philosophical works and speak with the best philosophical minds I can convince to come on the show! 
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  <title>Ep. 73 - Chris Franklin: Valuing (Angry) Blame</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In the final discussion of the series, we dive into Franklin's work on the value of angry blame: can anger best--really, only--express certain features of am adequate response to wrongdoing? </itunes:subtitle>
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For more on our sponsor, please visit http://www.newlane.edu/
Twitter: @JordanCMyers
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    <![CDATA[<p>In the final discussion of the series, we dive into Franklin&#39;s work on the value of angry blame: can anger best--really, only--express certain features of am adequate response to wrongdoing? </p>

<p>For more on our sponsor, please visit <a href="http://www.newlane.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newlane.edu/</a></p>

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Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Newlane University</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Please support the show by researching Newlane University. You can find out more at newlane.edu. Thank you to Newlane University for supporting this episode of Plato’s Cave. </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In the final discussion of the series, we dive into Franklin&#39;s work on the value of angry blame: can anger best--really, only--express certain features of am adequate response to wrongdoing? </p>

<p>For more on our sponsor, please visit <a href="http://www.newlane.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newlane.edu/</a></p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
Personal Website: <a href="https://jordanmyers.org/" rel="nofollow">https://jordanmyers.org/</a><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
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Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Newlane University</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Please support the show by researching Newlane University. You can find out more at newlane.edu. Thank you to Newlane University for supporting this episode of Plato’s Cave. </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Ep. 72 - Amia Srinivasan: The Aptness of Anger</title>
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  <description>We dive into Srinivasan's amazing (but at the end of the day, I think not fully right) paper, "The Aptness of Anger."
For more on our sponsor, please visit http://www.newlane.edu/
Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
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Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/ Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).
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    <![CDATA[<p>We dive into Srinivasan&#39;s amazing (but at the end of the day, I think not fully right) paper, &quot;The Aptness of Anger.&quot;</p>

<p>For more on our sponsor, please visit <a href="http://www.newlane.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newlane.edu/</a></p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:</p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
Personal Website: <a href="https://jordanmyers.org/" rel="nofollow">https://jordanmyers.org/</a><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
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Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Newlane University</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Please support the show by researching Newlane University. You can find out more at newlane.edu. Thank you to Newlane University for supporting this episode of Plato’s Cave. </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>We dive into Srinivasan&#39;s amazing (but at the end of the day, I think not fully right) paper, &quot;The Aptness of Anger.&quot;</p>

<p>For more on our sponsor, please visit <a href="http://www.newlane.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newlane.edu/</a></p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:</p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
Personal Website: <a href="https://jordanmyers.org/" rel="nofollow">https://jordanmyers.org/</a><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
<strong>Youtube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true</a></strong><br>
Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Newlane University</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Please support the show by researching Newlane University. You can find out more at newlane.edu. Thank you to Newlane University for supporting this episode of Plato’s Cave. </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Ep. 71 - Martha Nussbaum on Anger and Forgiveness (Part 2)</title>
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  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Part two of Martha Nussbaum's book, Anger and Forgiveness. 
For more on our sponsor, please visit http://www.newlane.edu/
Twitter: @JordanCMyers
Personal Website: https://jordanmyers.org/
Email: platoscavepodcast@gmail.com
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Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/ Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).
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    <![CDATA[<p>Part two of Martha Nussbaum&#39;s book, Anger and Forgiveness. </p>

<p>For more on our sponsor, please visit <a href="http://www.newlane.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newlane.edu/</a></p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
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Email: <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
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Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Newlane University</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Please support the show by researching Newlane University. You can find out more at newlane.edu. Thank you to Newlane University for supporting this episode of Plato’s Cave. </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Part two of Martha Nussbaum&#39;s book, Anger and Forgiveness. </p>

<p>For more on our sponsor, please visit <a href="http://www.newlane.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newlane.edu/</a></p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
Personal Website: <a href="https://jordanmyers.org/" rel="nofollow">https://jordanmyers.org/</a><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
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Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Newlane University</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Please support the show by researching Newlane University. You can find out more at newlane.edu. Thank you to Newlane University for supporting this episode of Plato’s Cave. </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Ep. 70 - Martha Nussbaum's Anger and Forgiveness (Part 1)</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In the second episode of our series on anger, we dive into the first chapters of Martha Nussbaum's recent book, Anger and Forgiveness. The first two chapters focus on the myth of payback's value.  </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:48:43</itunes:duration>
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  <description>In the second episode of our series on anger, we dive into the first chapters of Martha Nussbaum's recent book, Anger and Forgiveness. The first two chapters focus on the myth of payback's value.  
For more on our sponsor, please visit http://www.newlane.edu/
Twitter: @JordanCMyers
Personal Website: https://jordanmyers.org/
Email: platoscavepodcast@gmail.com
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true
Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/ Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).
</description>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In the second episode of our series on anger, we dive into the first chapters of Martha Nussbaum&#39;s recent book, Anger and Forgiveness. The first two chapters focus on the myth of payback&#39;s value.  </p>

<p>For more on our sponsor, please visit <a href="http://www.newlane.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newlane.edu/</a></p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
Personal Website: <a href="https://jordanmyers.org/" rel="nofollow">https://jordanmyers.org/</a><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
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Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Newlane University</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.newlane.edu/">Please support the show by researching Newlane University. You can find out more at newlane.edu. Thank you to Newlane University for supporting this episode of Plato’s Cave. </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In the second episode of our series on anger, we dive into the first chapters of Martha Nussbaum&#39;s recent book, Anger and Forgiveness. The first two chapters focus on the myth of payback&#39;s value.  </p>

<p>For more on our sponsor, please visit <a href="http://www.newlane.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newlane.edu/</a></p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
Personal Website: <a href="https://jordanmyers.org/" rel="nofollow">https://jordanmyers.org/</a><br>
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  <title>Ep. 61 - Glen Pettigrove: Meekness and Moral Anger</title>
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  <description>I speak with Glen Pettigrove about his paper "Meekness and Moral Anger." We discuss his attempt to breathe new life into meekness as a virtue, his diagnosis of anger's downsides, and the ways in which meekness can avoid these pitfalls.  
Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/663230?journalCode=et
https://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/humanities/staff/glenpettigrove/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Pettigrove
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<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
<a href="https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/663230?journalCode=et" rel="nofollow">https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/663230?journalCode=et</a><br>
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Pettigrove" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Pettigrove</a></p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
Personal Website: <a href="https://jordanmyers.org/" rel="nofollow">https://jordanmyers.org/</a><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
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Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guest: Glen Pettigrove.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>I speak with Glen Pettigrove about his paper &quot;Meekness and Moral Anger.&quot; We discuss his attempt to breathe new life into meekness as a virtue, his diagnosis of anger&#39;s downsides, and the ways in which meekness can avoid these pitfalls.  </p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
<a href="https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/663230?journalCode=et" rel="nofollow">https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/663230?journalCode=et</a><br>
<a href="https://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/humanities/staff/glenpettigrove/" rel="nofollow">https://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/humanities/staff/glenpettigrove/</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Pettigrove" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Pettigrove</a></p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
Personal Website: <a href="https://jordanmyers.org/" rel="nofollow">https://jordanmyers.org/</a><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
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Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guest: Glen Pettigrove.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Ep. 15 - Brandon Warmke: Moral Grandstanding </title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 06:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Jordan Myers</author>
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  <description>In this episode, I speak with Brandon Warmke about his new book, Grandstanding, which he co-authored with Justin Tosi. Brandon is a professor of philosophy at Bowling Green State University.  I highly recommend the book, and I hope this talk does it justice. I very much enjoyed speaking with Brandon, and I hope you enjoy our conversation as well. 
Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
https://www.amazon.com/Grandstanding-Use-Abuse-Moral-Talk/dp/0190900156?SubscriptionId=AKIAIA3UEVTLIG7AIKFA&amp;amp;tag=&amp;amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;amp;camp=2025&amp;amp;creative=165953&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0190900156
http://brandonwarmke.com/
https://www.bgsu.edu/arts-and-sciences/philosophy/faculty-and-staff/brandon-warmke.html
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/papa.12075
If you learned something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. 
Twitter: @JordanCMyers
You can also get in contact by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true
Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/
Plato's Cave is produced by a non-profit organization centered around public education on high-minded topics, Muckraker Media, which I co-founded. You can find out more by visiting muckrakermedia.org  Special Guest: Brandon Warmke.
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I speak with Brandon Warmke about his new book, Grandstanding, which he co-authored with Justin Tosi. Brandon is a professor of philosophy at Bowling Green State University.  I highly recommend the book, and I hope this talk does it justice. I very much enjoyed speaking with Brandon, and I hope you enjoy our conversation as well. </p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Grandstanding-Use-Abuse-Moral-Talk/dp/0190900156?SubscriptionId=AKIAIA3UEVTLIG7AIKFA&tag=&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=0190900156" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Grandstanding-Use-Abuse-Moral-Talk/dp/0190900156?SubscriptionId=AKIAIA3UEVTLIG7AIKFA&amp;tag=&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;camp=2025&amp;creative=165953&amp;creativeASIN=0190900156</a><br>
<a href="http://brandonwarmke.com/" rel="nofollow">http://brandonwarmke.com/</a><br>
<a href="https://www.bgsu.edu/arts-and-sciences/philosophy/faculty-and-staff/brandon-warmke.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.bgsu.edu/arts-and-sciences/philosophy/faculty-and-staff/brandon-warmke.html</a><br>
<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/papa.12075" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/papa.12075</a></p>

<p>If you learned something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers</a><br>
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. </p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
You can also get in contact by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
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Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p>

<p>Plato&#39;s Cave is produced by a non-profit organization centered around public education on high-minded topics, Muckraker Media, which I co-founded. You can find out more by visiting muckrakermedia.org </p><p>Special Guest: Brandon Warmke.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I speak with Brandon Warmke about his new book, Grandstanding, which he co-authored with Justin Tosi. Brandon is a professor of philosophy at Bowling Green State University.  I highly recommend the book, and I hope this talk does it justice. I very much enjoyed speaking with Brandon, and I hope you enjoy our conversation as well. </p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Grandstanding-Use-Abuse-Moral-Talk/dp/0190900156?SubscriptionId=AKIAIA3UEVTLIG7AIKFA&tag=&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=0190900156" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Grandstanding-Use-Abuse-Moral-Talk/dp/0190900156?SubscriptionId=AKIAIA3UEVTLIG7AIKFA&amp;tag=&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;camp=2025&amp;creative=165953&amp;creativeASIN=0190900156</a><br>
<a href="http://brandonwarmke.com/" rel="nofollow">http://brandonwarmke.com/</a><br>
<a href="https://www.bgsu.edu/arts-and-sciences/philosophy/faculty-and-staff/brandon-warmke.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.bgsu.edu/arts-and-sciences/philosophy/faculty-and-staff/brandon-warmke.html</a><br>
<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/papa.12075" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/papa.12075</a></p>

<p>If you learned something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers</a><br>
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. </p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
You can also get in contact by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
<strong>Youtube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true</a></strong><br>
Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p>

<p>Plato&#39;s Cave is produced by a non-profit organization centered around public education on high-minded topics, Muckraker Media, which I co-founded. You can find out more by visiting muckrakermedia.org </p><p>Special Guest: Brandon Warmke.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Ep. 2.5 - Aristotelian Virtue Ethics vs Consequentialism</title>
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  <author>Jordan Myers</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, In this episode, Jordan, Brian, and Adam discuss the possible shortcomings of Aristotelian ethics as opposed to consequentialism or deontology. Plus, a quibble on moral relativism.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:13:00</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, In this episode, Jordan, Brian, and Adam discuss the possible shortcomings of Aristotelian ethics as opposed to consequentialism or deontology. Plus, a quibble on moral relativism.
If you leanred something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. 
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You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @JordanCMyers 
Or by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com 
</description>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, In this episode, Jordan, Brian, and Adam discuss the possible shortcomings of Aristotelian ethics as opposed to consequentialism or deontology. Plus, a quibble on moral relativism.</p>

<p>If you leanred something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers</a><br>
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. </p>

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<p>You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @Jordan_C_Myers <br>
Or by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, In this episode, Jordan, Brian, and Adam discuss the possible shortcomings of Aristotelian ethics as opposed to consequentialism or deontology. Plus, a quibble on moral relativism.</p>

<p>If you leanred something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers</a><br>
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. </p>

<p>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/</a></p>

<p>You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @Jordan_C_Myers <br>
Or by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Ep. 2.4 - Aristotle's Virtue Ethics</title>
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  <pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2020 06:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Jordan Myers</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3be09d08-4ce1-496e-b963-86cd10c37f8c/968c194c-7fd7-404f-8346-04481d02445b.mp3" length="45000432" type="audio/mp3"/>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Part 1 of a 2 part series on Aristotelian virtue ethics. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:11:21</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Part 1 of a 2 part series on Aristotelian virtue ethics. 
If you leanred something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. 
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/
You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @JordanCMyers 
Or by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Part 1 of a 2 part series on Aristotelian virtue ethics. </p>

<p>If you leanred something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers</a><br>
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. </p>

<p>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/</a></p>

<p>You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @Jordan_C_Myers <br>
Or by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Part 1 of a 2 part series on Aristotelian virtue ethics. </p>

<p>If you leanred something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers</a><br>
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. </p>

<p>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/</a></p>

<p>You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @Jordan_C_Myers <br>
Or by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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