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    <description>I'm Jordan Myers and I'm a PhD student studying philosophy at USC. Plato's Cave is my attempt to exit... well, the cave. It's a philosophy podcast meant to help me guide my ascent to the real world, the truth, the place where life is worth living; and apparently that means giving up a regular job with good pay to pursue the security of the academic job market - the philosophy job market nonetheless! Join me on my journey as I cover philosophical works and speak with the best philosophical minds I can convince to come on the show! 
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    <itunes:summary>I'm Jordan Myers and I'm a PhD student studying philosophy at USC. Plato's Cave is my attempt to exit... well, the cave. It's a philosophy podcast meant to help me guide my ascent to the real world, the truth, the place where life is worth living; and apparently that means giving up a regular job with good pay to pursue the security of the academic job market - the philosophy job market nonetheless! Join me on my journey as I cover philosophical works and speak with the best philosophical minds I can convince to come on the show! 
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  <title>Ep. 46 - Reactive Attitudes and Restorative Justice (PPE series prt3)</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In part 3 of the Political Philosophy Reading Group series, Adam, Giffin, and I discuss the paper "Co-Reactive Attitudes and the Making of Moral Community" by Victoria McGeer, wherein she links an adoption of P.F. Strawson's thesis about the reactive attitudes directly to the practice of restorative justice. </itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>In part 3 of the Political Philosophy Reading Group series, Adam, Giffin, and I discuss the paper "Co-Reactive Attitudes and the Making of Moral Community" by Victoria McGeer, wherein she links an adoption of P.F. Strawson's thesis about the reactive attitudes directly to the practice of restorative justice. 
Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
https://www.princeton.edu/~vmcgeer/papers/McGeer2010CoreactiveMS.pdf
https://platoscave.fireside.fm/33
Twitter: @JordanCMyers
Personal Website: https://jordanmyers.org/
Email: platoscavepodcast@gmail.com
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true
Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/ Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).
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    <![CDATA[<p>In part 3 of the Political Philosophy Reading Group series, Adam, Giffin, and I discuss the paper &quot;Co-Reactive Attitudes and the Making of Moral Community&quot; by Victoria McGeer, wherein she links an adoption of P.F. Strawson&#39;s thesis about the reactive attitudes directly to the practice of restorative justice. </p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
<a href="https://www.princeton.edu/%7Evmcgeer/papers/McGeer2010CoreactiveMS.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.princeton.edu/~vmcgeer/papers/McGeer2010CoreactiveMS.pdf</a><br>
<a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/33" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/33</a></p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
Personal Website: <a href="https://jordanmyers.org/" rel="nofollow">https://jordanmyers.org/</a><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
<strong>Youtube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true</a></strong><br>
Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In part 3 of the Political Philosophy Reading Group series, Adam, Giffin, and I discuss the paper &quot;Co-Reactive Attitudes and the Making of Moral Community&quot; by Victoria McGeer, wherein she links an adoption of P.F. Strawson&#39;s thesis about the reactive attitudes directly to the practice of restorative justice. </p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
<a href="https://www.princeton.edu/%7Evmcgeer/papers/McGeer2010CoreactiveMS.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.princeton.edu/~vmcgeer/papers/McGeer2010CoreactiveMS.pdf</a><br>
<a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/33" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/33</a></p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
Personal Website: <a href="https://jordanmyers.org/" rel="nofollow">https://jordanmyers.org/</a><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
<strong>Youtube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true</a></strong><br>
Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Ep. 42 - FW/MR: "For the Law, Neuroscience Changes Nothing and Everything" by Greene &amp; Cohen</title>
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  <description>In this reading group episode, we wrap up the free will and moral responsibility series with a discussion of Green and Cohen's "For the Law, Neuroscience Changes Nothing and Everything." We talk about the legal and cultural implications of the series through the lens of Green ad Cohen's work. 
Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1693457/
Twitter: @JordanCMyers
You can also get in contact by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true
Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/ Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions), Brian (Reading Group Discussions), and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this reading group episode, we wrap up the free will and moral responsibility series with a discussion of Green and Cohen&#39;s &quot;For the Law, Neuroscience Changes Nothing and Everything.&quot; We talk about the legal and cultural implications of the series through the lens of Green ad Cohen&#39;s work. </p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1693457/" rel="nofollow">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1693457/</a></p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
You can also get in contact by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
<strong>Youtube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true</a></strong><br>
Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions), Brian (Reading Group Discussions), and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this reading group episode, we wrap up the free will and moral responsibility series with a discussion of Green and Cohen&#39;s &quot;For the Law, Neuroscience Changes Nothing and Everything.&quot; We talk about the legal and cultural implications of the series through the lens of Green ad Cohen&#39;s work. </p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1693457/" rel="nofollow">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1693457/</a></p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
You can also get in contact by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
<strong>Youtube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true</a></strong><br>
Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions), Brian (Reading Group Discussions), and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions).</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Ep. 21 - Gregg Caruso: Just Deserts &amp; Rejecting Retributivism</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2021 12:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, I speak with Gregg Caruso about this recent book, Just Deserts, co-authored with Dan Dennett. We discuss his claims about rejecting deep moral responsibility while still preserving many distinctions that compatibilists like Dan find important. We also dive into the divide between he (and myself) and Dennett.  </itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>In this episode, I speak with Gregg Caruso about this recent book, Just Deserts, co-authored with Dan Dennett. We discuss his claims about rejecting deep moral responsibility while still preserving many distinctions that compatibilists like Dan find important. We also dive into the divide between he (and myself) and Dennett.  
Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
http://www.greggcaruso.com/
https://debatingfreewill.com/
https://www.amazon.com/Rejecting-Retributivism-Punishment-Criminal-Cognitive/dp/1108484700/ref=sr114?dchild=1&amp;amp;keywords=Gregg+Caruso&amp;amp;qid=1601484552&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;sr=1-14
If you learned something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. 
Twitter: @JordanCMyers
You can also get in contact by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true
Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/ Special Guest: Gregg D. Caruso.
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I speak with Gregg Caruso about this recent book, Just Deserts, co-authored with Dan Dennett. We discuss his claims about rejecting deep moral responsibility while still preserving many distinctions that compatibilists like Dan find important. We also dive into the divide between he (and myself) and Dennett.  </p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
<a href="http://www.greggcaruso.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.greggcaruso.com/</a><br>
<a href="https://debatingfreewill.com/" rel="nofollow">https://debatingfreewill.com/</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rejecting-Retributivism-Punishment-Criminal-Cognitive/dp/1108484700/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=Gregg+Caruso&qid=1601484552&s=books&sr=1-14" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Rejecting-Retributivism-Punishment-Criminal-Cognitive/dp/1108484700/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&amp;keywords=Gregg+Caruso&amp;qid=1601484552&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-14</a></p>

<p>If you learned something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers</a><br>
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. </p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
You can also get in contact by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
<strong>Youtube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true</a></strong><br>
Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guest: Gregg D. Caruso.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I speak with Gregg Caruso about this recent book, Just Deserts, co-authored with Dan Dennett. We discuss his claims about rejecting deep moral responsibility while still preserving many distinctions that compatibilists like Dan find important. We also dive into the divide between he (and myself) and Dennett.  </p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
<a href="http://www.greggcaruso.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.greggcaruso.com/</a><br>
<a href="https://debatingfreewill.com/" rel="nofollow">https://debatingfreewill.com/</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rejecting-Retributivism-Punishment-Criminal-Cognitive/dp/1108484700/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=Gregg+Caruso&qid=1601484552&s=books&sr=1-14" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Rejecting-Retributivism-Punishment-Criminal-Cognitive/dp/1108484700/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&amp;keywords=Gregg+Caruso&amp;qid=1601484552&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-14</a></p>

<p>If you learned something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers</a><br>
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. </p>

<p><strong>Twitter:</strong> @Jordan_C_Myers<br>
You can also get in contact by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a><br>
<strong>Youtube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true</a></strong><br>
Plato&#39;s Cave Website: <a href="https://platoscave.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://platoscave.fireside.fm/</a></p><p>Special Guest: Gregg D. Caruso.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Ep. 4 - Ben Burgis: Moral Responsibility in a Determined World </title>
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  <pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2020 07:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Jordan Myers</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, I speak with Ben Burgis for a second time about free will compatiblism in a deterministic world. We speak about the metaphysics of free will and determinism, and what should constitude ground for moral responsibility. We also discuss my grad school writing sample and Christine Korsgaard's work. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:34:47</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>In this episode, I speak with Ben Burgis for a second time about free will compatiblism in a deterministic world. We speak about the metaphysics of free will and determinism, and what should constitude ground for moral responsibility. We also discuss my grad school writing sample and Christine Korsgaard's work. 
Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
https://twitter.com/BenBurgis
https://www.amazon.com/Give-Them-Argument-Logic-Left/dp/1789042100/
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2214250
https://soundcloud.com/user-761174326/41-jon-rosen-and-ben-burgis
If you learned something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. 
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/
You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @JordanCMyers 
Or by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com
Plato's Cave is produced by a non-profit organization centered around public education on high-minded topics, Muckraker Media, which I co-founded. You can find out more by visiting muckrakermedia.org  Special Guest: Ben Burgis.
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I speak with Ben Burgis for a second time about free will compatiblism in a deterministic world. We speak about the metaphysics of free will and determinism, and what should constitude ground for moral responsibility. We also discuss my grad school writing sample and Christine Korsgaard&#39;s work. </p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/BenBurgis" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/BenBurgis</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Give-Them-Argument-Logic-Left/dp/1789042100/" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Give-Them-Argument-Logic-Left/dp/1789042100/</a><br>
<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/2214250" rel="nofollow">https://www.jstor.org/stable/2214250</a><br>
<a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-761174326/41-jon-rosen-and-ben-burgis" rel="nofollow">https://soundcloud.com/user-761174326/41-jon-rosen-and-ben-burgis</a></p>

<p>If you learned something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers</a><br>
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. </p>

<p>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/</a></p>

<p>You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @Jordan_C_Myers <br>
Or by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a></p>

<p>Plato&#39;s Cave is produced by a non-profit organization centered around public education on high-minded topics, Muckraker Media, which I co-founded. You can find out more by visiting muckrakermedia.org </p><p>Special Guest: Ben Burgis.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I speak with Ben Burgis for a second time about free will compatiblism in a deterministic world. We speak about the metaphysics of free will and determinism, and what should constitude ground for moral responsibility. We also discuss my grad school writing sample and Christine Korsgaard&#39;s work. </p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/BenBurgis" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/BenBurgis</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Give-Them-Argument-Logic-Left/dp/1789042100/" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Give-Them-Argument-Logic-Left/dp/1789042100/</a><br>
<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/2214250" rel="nofollow">https://www.jstor.org/stable/2214250</a><br>
<a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-761174326/41-jon-rosen-and-ben-burgis" rel="nofollow">https://soundcloud.com/user-761174326/41-jon-rosen-and-ben-burgis</a></p>

<p>If you learned something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers</a><br>
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. </p>

<p>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/</a></p>

<p>You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @Jordan_C_Myers <br>
Or by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a></p>

<p>Plato&#39;s Cave is produced by a non-profit organization centered around public education on high-minded topics, Muckraker Media, which I co-founded. You can find out more by visiting muckrakermedia.org </p><p>Special Guest: Ben Burgis.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Ep. 2.11 - (ft.) Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen: Do We Have Free Will?</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2020 16:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
  <author>Jordan Myers</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen join me for a discussion on whether we have free will, or not, and if we do have it, is it the important type of freedom? I very much enjoyed hearing the two of them spar and I hope you find it valuable as well.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen join me for a discussion on whether we have free will, or not, and if we do have it, is it the important type of freedom? I very much enjoyed hearing the two of them spar and I hope you find it valuable as well.
Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
Ben's Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgis
Jon's Twitter: https://twitter.com/rosenbaier
Iona Italia's talk with both: https://t.co/3kEek7BJ8t?amp=1
If you leanred something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. 
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/
You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @JordanCMyers 
Or by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com Special Guests: Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen join me for a discussion on whether we have free will, or not, and if we do have it, is it the important type of freedom? I very much enjoyed hearing the two of them spar and I hope you find it valuable as well.</p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
Ben&#39;s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/BenBurgis" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/BenBurgis</a><br>
Jon&#39;s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/rosenbaier" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/rosenbaier</a><br>
Iona Italia&#39;s talk with both: <a href="https://t.co/3kEek7BJ8t?amp=1" rel="nofollow">https://t.co/3kEek7BJ8t?amp=1</a></p>

<p>If you leanred something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers</a><br>
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. </p>

<p>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/</a></p>

<p>You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @Jordan_C_Myers <br>
Or by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p>Special Guests: Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen join me for a discussion on whether we have free will, or not, and if we do have it, is it the important type of freedom? I very much enjoyed hearing the two of them spar and I hope you find it valuable as well.</p>

<p>Here&#39;s any links you&#39;ll need to dive deeper:<br>
Ben&#39;s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/BenBurgis" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/BenBurgis</a><br>
Jon&#39;s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/rosenbaier" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/rosenbaier</a><br>
Iona Italia&#39;s talk with both: <a href="https://t.co/3kEek7BJ8t?amp=1" rel="nofollow">https://t.co/3kEek7BJ8t?amp=1</a></p>

<p>If you leanred something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers</a><br>
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. </p>

<p>Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/</a></p>

<p>You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @Jordan_C_Myers <br>
Or by emailing me at <a href="mailto:platoscavepodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">platoscavepodcast@gmail.com</a></p><p>Special Guests: Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers">Support Plato&#39;s Cave</a></p>]]>
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