web02.fireside.fm Mon, 13 Apr 2026 14:04:37 -0500 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) Plato's Cave - Episodes Tagged with “Fatalism” https://platoscave.fireside.fm/tags/fatalism Thu, 09 Jun 2022 00:00:00 -0700 I'm Jordan Myers and I'm a PhD student studying philosophy at USC. Plato's Cave is my attempt to exit... well, the cave. It's a philosophy podcast meant to help me guide my ascent to the real world, the truth, the place where life is worth living; and apparently that means giving up a regular job with good pay to pursue the security of the academic job market - the philosophy job market nonetheless! Join me on my journey as I cover philosophical works and speak with the best philosophical minds I can convince to come on the show! en-us episodic A philosophy podcast hosted by the lowly grad student, Jordan Myers Jordan Myers I'm Jordan Myers and I'm a PhD student studying philosophy at USC. Plato's Cave is my attempt to exit... well, the cave. It's a philosophy podcast meant to help me guide my ascent to the real world, the truth, the place where life is worth living; and apparently that means giving up a regular job with good pay to pursue the security of the academic job market - the philosophy job market nonetheless! Join me on my journey as I cover philosophical works and speak with the best philosophical minds I can convince to come on the show! yes jordan, myers, philosophy, graduate, grad, school, PhD, USC, university, southern, california, interviews, ethics, philosopher, moral responsibility, philosophy of action, agency, reading group, discussion, university of houston, university of pittsburgh, existentialism, morality, political, mind, free will Jordan Myers platoscavepodcast@gmail.com Ep. 35 - FW/MR: "Freedom of the Will and the Concept of a Person" by Harry Frankfurt https://platoscave.fireside.fm/35 0ac5b387-1b48-49ad-ba3f-389006566899 Thu, 09 Jun 2022 00:00:00 -0700 Jordan Myers full Jordan Myers In this reading group episode, we discuss Frankfurt's famous paper, Freedom of the Will and the Concept of a Person. 1:49:09 yes In this reading group episode, we discuss Frankfurt's famous paper, Freedom of the Will and the Concept of a Person. Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper: https://www.jstor.org/stable/2024717 Twitter: @JordanCMyers You can also get in contact by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/ Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions). plato's cave, plato, cave, philosophy, grad school, graduate, PhD, jordan, myers, university of houston, reading, group, free, will, determinism, libertarian, causes, causal, fatalism, fate, destiny, thought, experiment, choice, action, freedom, book, review, compatiblist, determinist, incompatiblist, compatiblism, incompatiblism, moral, responsibility, strawson, series, impossibility, moral, responsibility, argument, reactive, objective, attitudes, skeptic, blame, praise, second, first, order, desires, volition, wanton, concept, person, agent, agency, unwilling, addict, harry, frankfurt, cases In this reading group episode, we discuss Frankfurt's famous paper, Freedom of the Will and the Concept of a Person.
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Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2024717

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]]> Ep. 34 - FW/MR: "Responsibility and the Limits of Evil" by Gary Watson https://platoscave.fireside.fm/34 3b298df2-47ab-4d32-b287-df49b7088d68 Wed, 08 Jun 2022 02:15:00 -0700 Jordan Myers full Jordan Myers In this reading group episode, we discuss Gary Watson's paper on Intelligible Moral Demand being a way to view the debate on moral responsibility. That paper is his Responsibility and the Limits of Evil: Variations on a Strawsonian Theme. 2:32:48 yes In this reading group episode, we discuss Gary Watson's paper on Intelligible Moral Demand being a way to view the debate on moral responsibility. That paper is his Responsibility and the Limits of Evil: Variations on a Strawsonian Theme. Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/polopoly_fs/1.101515!/file/watson-responsibility-limits-of-evil.pdf Twitter: @JordanCMyers You can also get in contact by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/ Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions). plato's cave, plato, cave, philosophy, grad school, graduate, PhD, jordan, myers, university of houston, reading, group,free, will, determinism, libertarian, causes, causal, fatalism, fate, destiny, thought, experiment, choice, action, freedom, book, review, compatiblist, determinist, incompatiblist, compatiblism, incompatiblism, brain, fmri, libet, dennett, moral, responsibility, strawson, series, galen, pf, strawson, peter, impossibility, moral, responsibility, korsgaard, burgis, derk, pereboom, four, case, argument, ethics, morality, basic, argument, summary, analysis, reactive, objective, attitudes, freedom, and, resentment, optimist, pessimist, skeptic, blame, praise, gary, watson, limits, of, evil, robert, harris, killer, intelligible, demand, communication, address In this reading group episode, we discuss Gary Watson's paper on Intelligible Moral Demand being a way to view the debate on moral responsibility. That paper is his Responsibility and the Limits of Evil: Variations on a Strawsonian Theme.

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]]> In this reading group episode, we discuss Gary Watson's paper on Intelligible Moral Demand being a way to view the debate on moral responsibility. That paper is his Responsibility and the Limits of Evil: Variations on a Strawsonian Theme.

Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/polopoly_fs/1.101515!/file/watson-responsibility-limits-of-evil.pdf

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]]> Ep. 33 - FW/MR: "Freedom and Resentment" by P.F. Strawson https://platoscave.fireside.fm/33 4adf48a3-55cc-4b9d-87cd-a7b8f731cb0e Tue, 07 Jun 2022 03:00:00 -0700 Jordan Myers full Jordan Myers In this reading group episode, we go deep into the weeds of PF Strawson's "Freedom and Resentment." 1:57:01 yes In this reading group episode, we go deep into the weeds of PF Strawson's "Freedom and Resentment." Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper: PDF:http://www.filosofia.unimi.it/zucchi/NuoviFile/FreedomandResentment.pdf Twitter: @JordanCMyers You can also get in contact by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/ Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions). plato's cave, plato, cave, philosophy, grad school, graduate, PhD, jordan, myers, university of houston, reading, group, free, will, determinism, libertarian, causes, causal, fatalism, fate, destiny, thought, experiment, choice, action, freedom, book, review, compatiblist, determinist, incompatiblist, compatiblism, incompatiblism, brain, fmri, libet, dennett, moral, responsibility, strawson, series, galen, pf, strawson, peter, impossibility, moral, responsibility, korsgaard, burgis, derk, pereboom, four, case, argument, ethics, morality, basic, argument, summary, analysis, reactive, objective, attitudes, freedom, and, resentment, optimist, pessimist, skeptic, blame, praise In this reading group episode, we go deep into the weeds of PF Strawson's "Freedom and Resentment."
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PDF:http://www.filosofia.unimi.it/zucchi/NuoviFile/Freedom_and_Resentment.pdf

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]]> In this reading group episode, we go deep into the weeds of PF Strawson's "Freedom and Resentment."
Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
PDF:http://www.filosofia.unimi.it/zucchi/NuoviFile/Freedom_and_Resentment.pdf

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]]> Ep. 32 - FW/MR: The Four Case Argument and Basic Argument by Galen Strawson and Derk Pereboom https://platoscave.fireside.fm/32 d79790e2-eac5-4aa5-a4ec-761b3674b446 Mon, 06 Jun 2022 03:00:00 -0700 Jordan Myers full Jordan Myers In this reading group discussion episode, we discuss Galen Strawson's "The Impossibility of Moral Responsibility" and Derk Pereboom's Four Case Argument against compatibilism. 1:18:23 yes In this reading group discussion episode, we discuss Galen Strawson's "The Impossibility of Moral Responsibility" and Derk Pereboom's Four Case Argument against compatibilism. Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper: http://static1.squarespace.com/static/551587e0e4b0ce927f09707f/t/57b5d14de58c624a6d3a5e99/1471533403405/Strawson%2C+The+Impossibility+of+Moral+Responsibility.pdf https://philosophicaldisquisitions.blogspot.com/2015/01/perebooms-four-case-argument-against.html Twitter: @JordanCMyers You can also get in contact by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/ Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions). plato's cave, plato, cave, philosophy, grad school, reading group, graduate, PhD, jordan, myers, university of houston, free, will, determinism, libertarian, causes, causal, fatalism, fate, destiny, thought, experiment, choice, action, freedom, book, review, compatiblist, determinist, incompatiblist, compatiblism, incompatiblism, brain, fmri, libet, dennett, moral, responsibility, strawson, series, galen, pf, strawson, peter, impossibility, moral, responsibility, korsgaard, burgis, ben, derk, pereboom, four, case, argument, plum, professor, white, ethics, morality, basic, argument, summary, analysis, In this reading group discussion episode, we discuss Galen Strawson's "The Impossibility of Moral Responsibility" and Derk Pereboom's Four Case Argument against compatibilism.
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https://philosophicaldisquisitions.blogspot.com/2015/01/perebooms-four-case-argument-against.html

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]]> In this reading group discussion episode, we discuss Galen Strawson's "The Impossibility of Moral Responsibility" and Derk Pereboom's Four Case Argument against compatibilism.
Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
http://static1.squarespace.com/static/551587e0e4b0ce927f09707f/t/57b5d14de58c624a6d3a5e99/1471533403405/Strawson%2C+The+Impossibility+of+Moral+Responsibility.pdf
https://philosophicaldisquisitions.blogspot.com/2015/01/perebooms-four-case-argument-against.html

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]]> Ep. 31 - FW/MR: SEP on Free Will and Determinism https://platoscave.fireside.fm/31 b44022b2-1e74-4e1b-a8cb-d0252888dd71 Sat, 04 Jun 2022 01:00:00 -0700 Jordan Myers full Jordan Myers In this reading group discussion episode, we discuss a follow up to our part 1 episode using the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy entries on free will and determinism. 53:30 yes In this reading group discussion episode, we discuss a follow up to our part 1 episode using the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy entries on free will and determinism. Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/freewill/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/determinism-causal/ Twitter: @JordanCMyers You can also get in contact by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/ Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions). plato's cave, plato, cave, philosophy, grad school, graduate, reading group, PhD, jordan, myers, university of houston, free, will, determinism, libertarian, causes, causal, fatalism, fate, destiny, thought, experiment, choice, action, freedom, book, review, compatiblist, determinist, incompatiblist, compatiblism, incompatiblism, brain, fmri, libet, dennett, moral, responsibility, strawson, series, sam, harris In this reading group discussion episode, we discuss a follow up to our part 1 episode using the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy entries on free will and determinism.

Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/freewill/
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/determinism-causal/

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]]> In this reading group discussion episode, we discuss a follow up to our part 1 episode using the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy entries on free will and determinism.

Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/freewill/
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/determinism-causal/

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You can also get in contact by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com
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]]> Ep. 30 - FW/MR: "Free Will" by Sam Harris https://platoscave.fireside.fm/30 8dafda3c-83bf-457a-98c2-8866dc270ed3 Wed, 01 Jun 2022 23:00:00 -0700 Jordan Myers full Jordan Myers In this reading group discussion episode, we start a series on Free Will, Determinism, and Moral Responsibility with Sam Harris's book. 1:18:20 yes In this reading group discussion episode, we start a series on Free Will, Determinism, and Moral Responsibility with Sam Harris's book. Twitter: @JordanCMyers You can also get in contact by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/ Special Guests: Adam (Reading Group Discussions) and Giffin (Reading Group Discussions). plato's cave, plato, cave, philosophy, grad school, reading, group, discussion, graduate, PhD, jordan, myers, university of houston, free, weill, determinism, libertarian, causes, causal, fatalism, fate, destiny, thought, experiment, choice, action, freedom, book, review, compatiblist, determinist, incompatiblist, compatiblism, incompatiblism, brain, fmri, libet, dennett, moral, responsibility, strawson, series, sam, harris In this reading group discussion episode, we start a series on Free Will, Determinism, and Moral Responsibility with Sam Harris's book.

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Twitter: @Jordan_C_Myers
You can also get in contact by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com
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]]> Ep. 2.11 - (ft.) Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen: Do We Have Free Will? https://platoscave.fireside.fm/2-11 e14cdb86-d892-4a9a-bbbf-ac8ee48bd1ec Mon, 16 Mar 2020 16:00:00 -0700 Jordan Myers full Jordan Myers In this episode, Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen join me for a discussion on whether we have free will, or not, and if we do have it, is it the important type of freedom? I very much enjoyed hearing the two of them spar and I hope you find it valuable as well. 1:36:44 no Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen join me for a discussion on whether we have free will, or not, and if we do have it, is it the important type of freedom? I very much enjoyed hearing the two of them spar and I hope you find it valuable as well. Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper: Ben's Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgis Jon's Twitter: https://twitter.com/rosenbaier Iona Italia's talk with both: https://t.co/3kEek7BJ8t?amp=1 If you leanred something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/ You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @JordanCMyers Or by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com Special Guests: Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen. plato's cave, plato, cave, philosophy, grad school, graduate, PhD, ben, burgis, jon, rosen, free will, determinism, incompatiblism, compatiblism, fatalism, moral, luck, responsibility, punishment, crime, robot, neuroscience, sam harris, jerry coyne, puppet, iona iltaila, two for tea Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen join me for a discussion on whether we have free will, or not, and if we do have it, is it the important type of freedom? I very much enjoyed hearing the two of them spar and I hope you find it valuable as well.

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Ben's Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgis
Jon's Twitter: https://twitter.com/rosenbaier
Iona Italia's talk with both: https://t.co/3kEek7BJ8t?amp=1

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Or by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com

Special Guests: Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen.

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]]> Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen join me for a discussion on whether we have free will, or not, and if we do have it, is it the important type of freedom? I very much enjoyed hearing the two of them spar and I hope you find it valuable as well.

Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper:
Ben's Twitter: https://twitter.com/BenBurgis
Jon's Twitter: https://twitter.com/rosenbaier
Iona Italia's talk with both: https://t.co/3kEek7BJ8t?amp=1

If you leanred something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers
Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtM5SXgyN93usom5vpRqlEQ/

You can also get in contact with me through Twitter: @Jordan_C_Myers
Or by emailing me at platoscavepodcast@gmail.com

Special Guests: Ben Burgis and Jon Rosen.

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